Ben's Gambit will totally work. It will take time, but it will work.
Locke will somehow avoid his normal "Oops, I Did it Again!" problem.... He will refrain from destroying Orchid Station! Yay! He will basically fulfill his part of the mission.
The island will move in time, not space, and when it does, the boat will not explode because someone, Daniel or Sayid, will have dismantled the explosives by then.
Richard will capture Keamy. Hopefully he will use some creepy Other methods... ;)
Ben will be fine. Obviously there is some significant action that has to happen to get all the Oceanic 6 off the island...
I really want Strom to play a bigger part in the finale... his ability is pretty cool and he is kinda fun in his self-serving, loveless way....
WHAT ARE YOUR PREDICTIONS?
Locke will somehow avoid his normal "Oops, I Did it Again!" problem.... He will refrain from destroying Orchid Station! Yay! He will basically fulfill his part of the mission.
The island will move in time, not space, and when it does, the boat will not explode because someone, Daniel or Sayid, will have dismantled the explosives by then.
Richard will capture Keamy. Hopefully he will use some creepy Other methods... ;)
Ben will be fine. Obviously there is some significant action that has to happen to get all the Oceanic 6 off the island...
I really want Strom to play a bigger part in the finale... his ability is pretty cool and he is kinda fun in his self-serving, loveless way....
WHAT ARE YOUR PREDICTIONS?
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Re: Predictions
Sat, May 17, 2008 - 7:11 AMBen's outfit made me think of Luke Skywalker.
His handing his little portable weapon thing to Locke made me think of Return of the Jedi.
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Sun, May 18, 2008 - 8:58 PMBen's outfit made me think of Luke Skywalker.
His handing his little portable weapon thing to Locke made me think of Return of the Jedi.
Of course, this is only plausible if the writers at Lost were in any way influenced by Star Wars>>
and we know they are..
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Re: Predictions
Sat, May 17, 2008 - 8:09 AMHurley in the Tempest with the burrito. That is how it will all end. (-:
hummmmmmmmmmm, Joanna, maybe there will be a Keamy/Alpert mud wrestling match to the death! hummmmmmmmmmm. I feel a write in campaign brewing!
Hurley will high tail it back to the beach once Locke goes into the Orchid. He will run into Jack & crew. They will all go back to the beach and be next on the little boat to go to the big boat. On the way they will find Sun in the water, having jumped overboard with two other random Lemming Losties, the big boat will explode or vanish...I tend to like the vanishment idea. They will be adrift. They will eat the two Lemming Losties.
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Sat, May 17, 2008 - 2:14 PMHurley can't abandon Ben - they are buddies now... The candy bar last episode and the playful "You realize that's 15 years old" comment this episode...
I wonder what will happen with Juliette?
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Tue, May 20, 2008 - 7:35 PMWell, I've been scrupulously avoiding spoilers in anticipation of the finale, but am more than ready to speculate wildly...and maybe not-so-wildly.
1) (The big one) The finale will bring the "present" of the series to the timeframe of the flash-forwards, with intervening Island time given in flashback when it's given.
2) Juliet's going to die. Her story is basically over and it gives Jack one more thing to get all weepy and beardy about.
3) Locke will be successful in moving the Island, and it will be a move in space...and IF it moves in time, it will move to the flash-forward future (effectively nullifying my prediction in 1, above, about "intervening Island time" because there won't be any subjectively on the Island).
4) In the course of helping Locke move the Island, Ben will initiate the wormhole-jump whose conclusion we saw in "The Shape of Things to Come".
5) Ben will also be the inhabitant of the coffin.
6) Keamy will get his comeuppance and die in a deeply satisfying way at Ben's hands (or Ben's proxy's hands...whatever).
7) Lapidus will die heroically, and this will somehow cement Daniel's, Charlotte's, and Miles' position in the society of those left behind on the Island.
8) The boat, it WILL go *boom*. You don't show us that much C4 without making an earth-shattering kaboom.
9) Michael (and maybe the meatsocks who came over with Faraday on the zodiac) will be on the boat when it goes, Desmond, Jin, and Sun somehow will not.
10) The O6 will be in a raft when both the freighter explodes AND the Island blinks "out of existence".
11) Jack's gonna screw up SOMEhow. Not sure how, but somehow. Maybe in some way relating to Claire.
12) We'll see more of Claire and Zombie Dad.
13) We'll see Walt again.
14) We'll see even more of the Orchid Orientation Film and our good friend, Dr. CandleWickmundHalliwax.
15) We'll get some hot Des & Pen action.
16) We're all going to enjoy it thoroughly!
K, done. For now.
PS: They're re-airing Part 1 before Parts 2 & 3, complete with extended "press conference" sequdence...so set your TiVos, mark your calendars, and make your dinner plans accordingly! -
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Tue, May 20, 2008 - 7:57 PM"5) Ben will also be the inhabitant of the coffin. "
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When did you change your mind on this???? I thought we had a dinner bet going?
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Tue, May 20, 2008 - 8:14 PMWhen a certain site with spoiler knowledge posted a "Who's in the coffin?" poll and a certain someone wasn't even on it as an option. *sighs*
None of which lets me out of my dinner bet obligation, of course, which I'll be more than happy to pay out on should the terms be met. ;-)
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Tue, May 20, 2008 - 8:19 PMI think Juliet is going to die too. I also agree that boat is gonna explode. Jin is gonna die. I think Sun knows he is dead and that is why they went to the tombstone dedicated to him. The O6 will be the ones who make it in the raft but I think there will be 8 of them in the water and somehow two will die and that is why their media story always says 8 went in the water but 6 survived.
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Re: Predictions
Tue, May 20, 2008 - 10:24 PMThese predictions are targeted at the two-hour finale but since time-travel is happening any part of the entire LOST timeline can show up there in this season's finale even though a particular cryptic element will play out more fully over the next two seasons. So, in consequence, here are my predictions both narrow and broad as per my un-Spoiler-informed wild speculation and guessing at the moment:
The ship will explode.
Keamy & Co. will fail to torch the island ala the Tempest station or by just shooting everyone but Keamy will not die ...yet.
The island will be moved through time, only, not space as well.
The Four-Toed Foot was once connected to an enormous statue which like the Colossus of Rhodes stands bestride the island’s harbor entrance -and we will see this entire landscape as the Black Rock approaches the island and passes beneath the already-ancient statue into the harbor, perhaps being swept past there and further inland via a massive storm and/or riding a tsunami surge which brings down the Four-Toed Statue as well while taking the Black Rock to rest inland.
The Orchid Station portal will facilitate geographical jumps (as for Ben, to Tunisia, though he was prepared for ending up at a hidden DHARMA Initiative station in the arctic when he made the jump). There will be a DHARMA Initiative station hidden in the Tunisian desert as well, which Ben uses the resources of to advantage (just as he used the resources and the portal hidden beneath his room in New Otherton).
Widmore wants the island for both its Fountain of Youth/disease-curative properties and its tactical military applications; he was associated with the earlier DHARMA Initiative efforts in connection with Alvar Hanso and the DeGroots but murdered those others in a failed attempt to gain sole control of it all. Widmore has no real clue about the deeper aspects of the island, but Abaddon does.
The Hydra will turn out to have been a military bioweapons project working on using animals with enhanced intelligence as semiautonomous weapons, such as for assasination-by-polar-bear or ship-blown-up-by-Flipper. The biological weapons research being done at the Hydra went awry, resulting (in part) in a polar bear ending up in ancient Tunisia.
Sun’s father will turn out to have been sending the ultra-expensive watch and Jin to Widmore/Abaddon; Mr. Paik will attempt to redeem his honor and affirm his family loyalty by turning on Widmore/Abaddon and acting for Sun.
Michael’s body will be in the casket.
Waaaaalt! will return to the island; Smokey will defend the children and Walt to the death.
Rose and Bernard will die nobly, sacrificing themselves to save others --perhaps the children and Penelope & Desmond specifically-- through cunning use of Bernard’s black ops skill set remaining from his old days in the CIA.
There will be some direct connection between Dr. Labcoat in the orientation films and Dr. Charlotte Staples Lewis. She gets ahold of his diary or tortures his bunnyrabbit until he talks or otherwise finds out all sorts of DHARMA secrets from him, though maybe not in person.
Abaddon will seize Aaron.
At the core of the island, probably connected to the Temple, is a self-maintaining artificial intelligence.
Hurley’s curse is real and directly connected to both the island and the doomsday algorithm.
If the event which created the island’s time-space rift is not stabilized or healed then it will end up destroying the planet and all creatures on Earth. Aaron, acting at Abaddon’s behest in the main default timeline, is somehow instrumental to setting in motion this disastrous event ...which traps him out of phase.
Jacob will turn out to have been born as Aaron and to be basically omniscient as regards the island, its workings, and everyone connected to the island (since he is bodiless and moves interdimensionally through the timelines) ...but is powerless and unable to “do” anything in the sense of materially moving mass across distance (except via electromagnetic charge in some special circumstances) because he is trapped in a dimension intersecting time-space normal.
The LOSTies and Others will turn out to have been gathered together by reason of a genetically heritable trait for being sensitive to receiving Jacob’s psi messages and/or by reason of essential skills they have and roles they must play in order for Jacob to be rescued and the time-space rift of the island to be stabilized.
The mysterious aspects of island itself (Smokey, the Four-Toed Foot, et cetera) date from far distant antiquity (way before the Tunisian archaeological dig site’s era) having been built by people from the future who have access to powerful technologies. These technologies running amok (as via Smokey off the leash or the disease-curative/death-in-childbirth imbalance) killed them off but the island remained, electromagnetically cloaked.
Locke, Jack and Ben will ultimately work together on Jacob and the island’s behalf in the end but for now are all headed in different directions: Locke to learn the deep secret lore of the Temple and lead the Others (John Locke may lose one eye in this process as he learns to see into the heart of this dark mystery), Ben to play Dr. Moriarty with Widmore and to pit Sayid versus Widmore’s minions including Darth Maul (Keamy) -whom he kills (Keamy having killed Sayid's beloved), and Jack to be all pathetic and full of angst and booze while interacting with the O6, Zombie Dad, and his Zombie Sis, Claire.
Penelope, Kate, Sun, Juliette, Rose, and Charlotte will emerge more strongly as characters in the remainder of LOST. Juliette does not die unless it is as a sacrifice (in which case she is not dead in the sense of “completely gone”). Also, I predict we will see Naomi again, as well as Alex, Libby, Rousseau and some of the other women of LOST who died in a distinctly sacrificial manner. The women of LOST will have the lead roles and much of the key action in the remainder of the run.
Kate and Jack will save the planet.
Ben escapes into the future and the rest of his life is unknown to us, mysterious.
Adam and Eve will return to the island in the late 1940’s or early 1950’s and peacefully live out the rest of their lives together there.
Victor lives happily ever after, chasing Smokey-rabbits through the jungle.
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Wed, May 21, 2008 - 12:48 AMWow, Alaska and Sonya - if you guys are right we need a 2-week long, not a 2-hour long finale!
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Wed, May 21, 2008 - 12:51 AMHm, you remind me of the Aaron=Jacob theory.....
If it's true, it would help explain why Claire would leave Aaron on a tree stump to go hang in the Cabin.
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Wed, May 21, 2008 - 7:33 AMAlaska Steve, John will lose an eye? How very Asatru - istic of you! Love it!
Also "Abaddon will seize Aaron"....might be the only way that Kate will decide to start looking for the island. Which leads me to think that they will all need to be together (Oceanic 6) in order to find the island again. I think Sun, having found out what all her pappy's company is involved in, will be the one who masterminds the return. Her going back for Jin...who won't die but will have vanished with the island or boat or what ever.
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Wed, May 21, 2008 - 10:45 AM@ Supreme Mugwump
Thanks for mentioning Asatru (a word which I'd never before heard, though my guess about John Locke losing one eye did indeed stem from a general familiarity that same Viking mythic tradition). Not knowing what "Asatru" meant I just looked it up online and found the neatest associated old graphic at www.asatru.org/
Have you seen this site?
How cool is that illustration! This iconic symbolism has at center the world-within-a-world or core reality of The Island, the mighty pillar of the world tree (masculine principle) upthrusting and rising into the Yin (feminine receptive prinicple) with its roots in the Yang (light)) aspect of being, the light and dark in balance, a circle of ash (or is that an Ouroboros? Both at once?), and Jacob's mysterious mobile cabin with it's portal (or Odin's dimension-phasing outhouse -which I cannot quite tell). What are those white lines the cabin is on -maybe alternate branching pathways of different timelines and phase junctures the cabin might be found on?
There is also a bit of a similarity in this Norse tradition-based illustration and the mystic notion of "as above, so below" we see represented in the cover of Mystery Tales #40, with one floating city cloaked from view of the other by their relative perspectives vis a vis one another, just as one level of reality supports and is cloaked from direct view of another in the Asatru construct. Indeed, Mystery Tales #40's questions "What was the secret of the hidden land" and "Does it pay to ignore the voice of warning?!?" fit just as well with this ancient Norse cosmology as with its cover illustration.
There are so many primal elements in LOST that it is easy to find correspondences.
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Re: Predictions
Wed, May 21, 2008 - 6:11 PMummmm . . .
something to do with a crystal skull
;)
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