Taweret vs. Anubis

topic posted Thu, March 5, 2009 - 12:43 PM by  Powers
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  • Re: Taweret vs. Anubis

    Thu, March 5, 2009 - 7:08 PM

    Nifty! Thanks for the fascinating links; LOST is such a pleasant education.

    Given all the yin/yang dualism in LOST, for the "Taweret vs. Anubis" sweepstakes I'll guess "both" ...perhaps with Pharaoh Richard Alpert's face on the Colossus as the unifying avatar. Both fit, and Sir Eyeliner may have been around since the days of both the Well of Souls and the Colossus, which are two massively feminine and masculine principles (the eyeliner being a slightly feminine touch to his otherwise masculine demeanor).
  • Re: Taweret vs. Anubis

    Thu, March 5, 2009 - 7:24 PM
    I was just trawling through google images trying to see if there was any images of Anubis with 4 toes. Guess I should probably just get over obsessing about the number of toes. In any case the back of the island statue seems to resemble Anubis especially in its attire. And Anubis' importance to the dead fits with the Locke and Christian Sheperd resurrections as well.
    • Re: Taweret vs. Anubis

      Fri, March 6, 2009 - 12:17 AM
      Tough choice. Anubis is the protector of lost souls and Taweret is the talisman for protection in pregnancy and childbirth. I'm going with both, too.
      • Re: Taweret vs. Anubis

        Fri, March 6, 2009 - 10:52 AM
        Actually your obsession is good. I don't thnk it's Anubis. There's something significant about toes/feet in egyptian art that I can't remember. I don't think it's anubis though from the photo. The ears are wrong and other gods do carry the anhk. I'm going to have to look at my notes from Egypt and figure this out. Thanks for giving me something I think I could solve :)
        • Re: Taweret vs. Anubis

          Fri, March 6, 2009 - 11:01 AM
          Ahh ha! I'm going to go with Tawaret for sure. Firstly headdresses are very important in determining who's who if the headdress is there and unique, which in this case it is.

          Household deity in the form of a female hippopotamus who was particularly associated with the protection of women in childbirth. Since childbirth was a particularly dangerous time in the lives of ordinary people, it is not surprising that Tawaret was one of the most popular household deities from the Old Kingdom onwards. She was often shown holding the "sa" hieroglyph of protection or the ankh hieroglyph of life. She was thought to assist women in labour by using magic to scare off demons and evil spirits that might harm the vulnerable mother or child.

          This back view looks like it's holding both the sa nad the ankh...plus note that hippopotamus's have 4 toes :)
          • Re: Taweret vs. Anubis

            Fri, March 6, 2009 - 11:14 AM

            >hippopotamus's have 4 toes<

            Oh, well done!
            • Re: Taweret vs. Anubis

              Fri, March 6, 2009 - 12:02 PM
              . . . and your very welcome

              how about Teweranubis, or Anuteweret
              • Re: Taweret vs. Anubis

                Sat, March 7, 2009 - 3:58 PM
                I've seen speculation elsewhere that it's Horus, so similar in name to the Dharma Initiative's fearless leader and dynamite juggler Horace Goodspeed.
                • Re: Taweret vs. Anubis

                  Sat, March 7, 2009 - 4:10 PM
                  It is definitely meaningful that Mr. Goodspeed's first name is Horace. The god Horus was a falcon headed god. I was trying to look on Lostpedia to see if the Hurley bird looked anything like a falcon but it is kind of hard to tell in the image. lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Ima..._bird.jpg
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                    Re: Taweret vs. Anubis

                    Thu, March 12, 2009 - 8:44 AM
                    Looks more like a vulture to me.
                    • Re: Taweret vs. Anubis

                      Sun, March 15, 2009 - 11:34 AM

                      >>Looks more like a vulture to me.<<

                      Well, if the statue _does_ turn out to be vulture-headed, then perhaps instead of Horus an influence may be found in Tash.

                      "Tash is a fictional character found in C. S. Lewis' Chronicles of Narnia series...he appears as a terrible demon with a skeletal, humanoid body, a vulture-like head and four taloned arms."
                      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tash_(Narnia)

                      ...but I think if would be LOST-worthy if the statue turns out to have the face of someone we know, like His Otherness John the Risen (he who stoodeth in the Waters and Returneth to Prepare the Way for Another Who Is Greater Than Even He, ...like Jacob?).
                      • Re: Taweret vs. Anubis

                        Mon, April 27, 2009 - 7:41 PM

                        Anyone else think we may be nearing the point where we finally see the face on the Statue?

                        Care to Locke in a final guess as to whose face (or which traditional ancient Egyptian deity's face) will be revealed thereupon?

                        No surprise, I am putting my Statue's Face chips on John's square. Seems to add up that direction, intuitively, to me (plus which there is the "John's Statue" bit in Mystery Tales #40).

                        Anyone solid for Taweret? Anubis? Pharaoh RA? Someone else?
                        • Re: Taweret vs. Anubis

                          Thu, May 14, 2009 - 3:12 PM
                          it had more a crocodile face, didn't it - with the longer slender body.

                          Mos def a combo of the two.

                          LOST is trying to cover all bases and put itself on the shelf as the first TV show to do that.

                          And don't think that even after this show is over we won't be seeing graphic novels and prequels and maybe even more from them in terms of explaining other stuff we did or didn't see.

                          Remember - they just re -did Star Trek (again) and that was a TV show as well.

                          NEXT: The Voyage of the Black Rock. How we came to the island memoirs.
                        • Re: Taweret vs. Anubis

                          Fri, May 15, 2009 - 3:16 PM
                          New here to this forum, but obsessed with LOST and now that I have to wait 6 months to see more I am dying to talk to others about theories, etc.

                          After reading this thread and then doing some research of my own I have to say that I am now a solid believer that the statue is Tawaret. From all the images I have been able to find, it is the closest. I wanted to say it was a crocodile too, but it has ears on the top of its head and crocodile only have ear canals no outer ear. Hippos do. And the long hair, Tawaret always has long hair. And hippos also have 4 toes and in one of the amulets I saw of Tawaret, she had 4 toes. She wasn't always depicted with a pregnant stomach and breasts. She did not come to be representative of fertilty, etc. until well into the era of The Old Kingdom. At first she was demon-wife to Apep, known as the mistress of the horizon...

                          I don't know I could be way off here, but the evidence I have found supports a Tawaret theory.


                          Anyhoo, I want more LOST! Guess I better start rewatching again :D
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    Re: Taweret vs. Anubis

    Thu, June 4, 2009 - 4:03 PM

    Definitely Taweret !

    reasons:

    1) All of the people that posted here wrote she has 4 tows and that as a Hippo it makes sense,
    BUT the Egyptian goddess actually had the head and body of a hippo, and the legs (and
    arms) of a LIONESS.
    Since felines (Lions, genus panthera etc.) have 4 tows. IT STILL FITS TAWERET. :)

    2) If the statue was supposed to depict the god Anubis, he would more probably be holding
    a crook and flail, which are common to his portrayal. (I'm not an expert, I've only done some
    online research). As said before, Taweret is more commonly depicted holding the Ankh and Was,
    which also make more sense in relation to Jacob's (former) immortality and the Ankh being a symbol
    of immortal life.

    3) I don't want to repeat things said here but, Taweret is the goddess of childbirth.
    Childbirth....! the island...! ...come on...! seems obvious to me....
    (women die on the island by the exact thing that the broken statue was supposed to protect from).

    oh, and... Shalom to all the LOST fans in israel and worldwide :)
    • Re: Taweret vs. Anubis

      Mon, June 8, 2009 - 5:13 PM
      Except that the statue very clearly has crocodile face (snout, teeth). There is no hippo nor any lioness aspect to the statue, except the number of toes. And the toes are clearly human toes, not hippo or feline toes.

      I find it unlikely, on this show, that anything will be cut and dried. My guess is it's a combination of deities. Or it will be a production designer mistake.
      • Re: Taweret vs. Anubis

        Tue, June 30, 2009 - 5:37 AM
        i think jacob is tarawets son, a dead god who can not live in the land of living. osiris check out his story, banished to an island ,sort of fits
        • Re: Taweret vs. Anubis

          Mon, July 13, 2009 - 2:27 PM
          > i think jacob is tarawets son, a dead god who can not live in the land of living. osiris check out his story, banished to an island ,sort of fits

          Except that Jacob was seen in the outside world during this season's finale.
  • Re: Taweret vs. Anubis

    Tue, June 9, 2009 - 5:48 PM
    I really hate to chnage the subject, knowing that I am new to this gig and all, but check this out- google The Land OF the Lost 1974 and read through it- THe Leader of the Sleezaks was played by man named John Locke and read the info about the show, time paradoxes etc ! What do ya all think !!

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