How's that for a title!
In another thread there was a speculation that Charlotte might be Ben's daughter. I'm sooooo sorry that I forgot who posted it. Please raise your hand and say, "shimmy shimmy cocopuff" if it was you.
I adore this idea! How long ago was the purge? Maybe he sent her off island before it happened or the mother found out what a crazy bastard Ben was and split with the kid. Maybe the whole pregnant women dying is a new fad that has caught on.
Or maybe she is Windmore's daughter...come on, doesn't everyone have an illegitiment Austrailian daughter? It is the coolest fad around. It would be cool if Ben meant that he'd kill Charlotte instead of Penny.
In another thread there was a speculation that Charlotte might be Ben's daughter. I'm sooooo sorry that I forgot who posted it. Please raise your hand and say, "shimmy shimmy cocopuff" if it was you.
I adore this idea! How long ago was the purge? Maybe he sent her off island before it happened or the mother found out what a crazy bastard Ben was and split with the kid. Maybe the whole pregnant women dying is a new fad that has caught on.
Or maybe she is Windmore's daughter...come on, doesn't everyone have an illegitiment Austrailian daughter? It is the coolest fad around. It would be cool if Ben meant that he'd kill Charlotte instead of Penny.
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Re: From Ben's Loins....
Sat, May 31, 2008 - 7:39 PM""shimmy shimmy cocopuff" "
But wait a sec, I'm probably wrong: Didn't Ben shoot Charlotte when she first arrived? Unless he doesn't know she's his daughter my theory doesn't work.
I like the Widmore theory, too.. Temperament-wise, she reminds me more of Charles... She is so Alpha and bold... Ben is a powerful person too but more low-profile. -
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Re: From Ben's Loins....
Sat, May 31, 2008 - 8:49 PMBen shooting Charlotte was just all part of his plan. He knew she had a vest on the whole time, but the Losties didn't know that he knew! (-: She's really working for Ben and has been his contact to Paik....which is why she speaks Korean. Oh yea. It's all coming together now.
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Re: From Ben's Loins....
Sat, May 31, 2008 - 10:20 PMIt could be but the ages don't seem right unless somehow time really is slower on the island. Charlotte is 28 years old and Ben is 36 or 38 isn't he? They told us before and now I can't remember his exact age. -
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Re: From Ben's Loins....
Sat, May 31, 2008 - 10:55 PMWell, time travel could solve the age problem quite nicely. Though I am partial to the Charlotte-is-Annie runner-up theory. Of course, a little time travel is necessary there too I think.
I think we should take further note of the fact that Charlotte speaks Korean. Details about characters aren't revealed for no reason in this well written show. Perhaps she does work for Paik, but also has personal interest in the island. I was about to say that maybe Jin will become suspicious of her and a Paik connection, then I remembered. He's a little tied up right now with either exploding or trying not to drown, so probably not giving Charlotte too much thought. -
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Re: From Ben's Loins....
Sun, June 1, 2008 - 4:46 AMHummmm, I didn't know about the ages. Drat.
You're right, Polly, Time travel could do that. hummmm. Interesting thought, which leads me to think about this....
Did Ben jump from beneath the island to the desert where he fought those men? Wasn't he in a parka during that fight? Did Windmore send those men to that particular spot because as Keamy said, "He knows where you'll go." Is Windmore unstuck in time like Des is/was? Twould be groovy if all the answers were YES! -
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Re: From Ben's Loins....
Sun, June 1, 2008 - 9:03 AM<<Did Ben jump from beneath the island to the desert where he fought those men? Wasn't he in a parka during that fight? Did Windmore send those men to that particular spot because as Keamy said, "He knows where you'll go." Is Windmore unstuck in time like Des is/was? Twould be groovy if all the answers were YES! >>
considering that ben was wearing the parka and his arm was still bleeding, and considering the polar bear that charlotte found in the same desert, i'd say it would make a whole lot of logical sense if the answer to all those questions was "YES" ... at least, that's how i'm seeing it... -
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Re: From Ben's Loins....
Sun, June 1, 2008 - 9:44 AMAre you saying that Widmore somehow can track where Ben transports to? -
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Sun, June 1, 2008 - 9:48 AMmy thought is, that if ben and the polar bear both ended up in the desert, then there's a pattern to the transportation...
i'm not sure about the widmore connection, but if charlotte knew about the polar bear in the desert and was working for widmore, and *if* there *is* a pattern to the transportation (and ben seemed like a regular at that hotel) ... then it's possible that widmore knows too. -
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Re: From Ben's Loins....
Mon, June 2, 2008 - 12:34 PM> and *if* there *is* a pattern to the transportation (and ben seemed like a regular at that hotel)
The method Ben used to get there hasn't been used for a long time, not since before the Dharma folks showed up. Remember, Ben had to blow a hole in the Vault wall in order to get down there. That Vault was created by the Dharma Initiative. Perhaps the Vault was used, or the Dharma folks used it before constructing the Orchid, but I don't think Ben has been using that regularly. -
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Mon, June 2, 2008 - 12:38 PMIf the method Ben used to move the island transported him to the desert, is it possible that all the other people on the island ended up in the desert too? -
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Re: From Ben's Loins....
Mon, June 2, 2008 - 12:49 PM> If the method Ben used to move the island transported him to the desert, is it possible that all the other people on the island ended up in the desert too?
Well, anything is possible. We have no basis for understanding what happened, so they could pull anything next season.
My guess, though, is that it's an equal and opposite thing, i.e. it throws Ben in one direction and the Island in the opposite, with some sort of ratio by mass. In other words, Ben gets thrown half across the world, but the island gets thrown only 50-100 miles.
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Re: From Ben's Loins....
Mon, June 2, 2008 - 2:57 PM<<but I don't think Ben has been using that regularly>>
nah, i didn't think that he had necessarily used *that* particular method of travel before...it seemed to me at first that the matter that was mentioned in the video locke watched (which what was "powering" the vault, right?) might send someone the same "direction" each time, but that's not a given...also, the polar bear may have gotten to the desert by accident, too, but since ben ended up in the same place there obviously is a connection...maybe moving the island sent ben "somewhere" unknown, but he got from there to the desert pretty quick it would seem, and probably by the same method as the polar bear.
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Re: From Ben's Loins....
Thu, June 5, 2008 - 1:46 PM<<In another thread there was a speculation that Charlotte might be Ben's daughter.>>
I don't think it was me, but I've been pondering this very notion myself lately...that maybe she's the daughter of Ben and Annie (and that maybe, somehow, Ben doesn't know about her).
<<How long ago was the purge?>>
Not long enough ago for Charlotte to have grown into a fully-credentialed anthropologist if she were born after it or even roughly contemporaneous with it. The Purge occurred in 1992, according to Lostpedia ( lostpedia.com/wiki/Purge ), so given an on-Island date of 12/04-1/05, that's only ~12 years. She would have to have been born years before. That said, Ben, being born in the 60s, would be old enough to be her father even so (assuming he was in his 20s or maybe even late teens when she was born).
<Or maybe she is Windmore's daughter...>>
Yaknow, I'm just going on gut here, but that feels wrong to me. -
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Re: From Ben's Loins....
Thu, June 5, 2008 - 3:29 PMYa know... I could beleive that Ben doesn't know he has a daughter *if* she had been born off island. But they seem to be hinting that Charlotte was born on the island and I just don't think Ben would miss something like that!
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Re: From Ben's Loins....
Thu, June 5, 2008 - 4:07 PMI don't have a prediction on who were her parents, but I'm going to predict that Charlotte was both conceived and born on the Island and that the pregnancy issues are recent, rather than part of the Island's nature. Just a hunch.
And I agree with Beka that if she were born on the Island and were Ben's, he'd know. Heck, I'd bet he does know whose child she is. -
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Re: From Ben's Loins....
Thu, June 5, 2008 - 4:52 PMAnother theory: She could be the DeGroot's daughter.
I'd love that.
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