Remember them? There were 8 that survived, 2 died and 6 made it back to civilization. What if Adam and Eve were the 2 that didn't make it back....
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Fri, February 29, 2008 - 4:00 PM> Remember them? There were 8 that survived, 2 died and 6 made it back to civilization. What if Adam and Eve were the 2 that didn't make it back....
Whenever Damon and Carlton give an interview, Adam and Eve inevitably get brought up. They claim we will find out about them, but not this season, which leads me to think they are not the two that died. But that is only my guess and this theory is certainly not out of the question. -
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Fri, May 9, 2008 - 8:03 PMHaven't the writers said since forever that Adam and Eve were the key to everything? Or is that just my imagination. -
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Fri, May 9, 2008 - 8:09 PMI thought Dad issues were the key to everything. No wait, I thought Aaron was the key to everything. No, no Australia is the key to everything. No, but wait.....Vincent is the key to everything, No Walt! Also let's not forget backgammon, comic books, Kate's freckles, Jack's tattoos, fish biscuits, ranch dressing, The black rock and heroin. They are all keys!
OK, perhaps I exaggerate a tad. -
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Fri, May 9, 2008 - 8:26 PMWell duh - besides Vincent, obviously. We all know he's really the key.
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Fri, May 9, 2008 - 10:42 PMIn an EW.com article, Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse answered the fan question, "What is the meaning or significance of the two skeletons that Jack and Kate found in the cave of season 1?"
CUSE: The answer to that question goes to the nature of the timeline of the Island. We don't want to say too much about it, but there are a couple Easter eggs embedded in "Not in Portland", one of which is an anagram that actually sheds some light on the skeletons and hints at a larger mythological mystery that will start to unfold later in the season.
LINDELOF: There were certain things we knew from the very beginning. Independent of ever knowing when the end was going to be, we knew what it was going to be, and we wanted to start setting it up as early as season 1, or else people would think that we were making it up as we were going along. So the skeletons are the living—or, I guess, slowly decomposing—proof of that. When all is said and done, people are going to point to the skeletons and say, "That is proof that from the very beginning, they always knew that they were going to do this."
* In the Official Lost Podcast transcript/February 12, 2007, Damon and Carlton confirmed that the anagram was Mittelos-Lost Time. -
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Fri, May 9, 2008 - 10:45 PMwww.lostpedia.com/wiki/Adam_and_Eve, of course.
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Fri, February 29, 2008 - 4:13 PMI think Adam and Eve are Kate and Jack when they go back to the island. -
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Fri, February 29, 2008 - 4:33 PMThat's probably the single most prevalent theory as to the provenance of Adam & Eve, that they're a time-looped Jack and Kate. I'd be read for that..but I'd also be ready for them to pull thr rug right out from under that terribly convenient theory, you know? ;-) -
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Sat, March 1, 2008 - 9:17 AMyup . . .
I like Des and Pen
Danielle and ? was it Robert (supposedly) maybe the first couple to be of this Idea
Question: then where / what is the tree of knowledge? The Island is an easy answer, too easy
what is the / where is the ribbon / rib?
Who is the snake? Ben might might be an easy answer
Who are Cain and Abel?
What is their 'nakedness' of which they are ashamed? If anything Jack may be 'ashamed' and as we've seen Kate is not. -
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Sat, March 1, 2008 - 2:59 PMor . . .
The Ghost of Jack's Dad
meets up with Claire's Ghost because she dies and must then go with him becuase they are really lovers and Aaron is the offspring. And they are the Adam and Eve storying and Aaron is like .. . . -
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Sat, March 1, 2008 - 9:13 PMUm, isn't Jack's dad also Claire's dad? I would hope they weren't lovers.
And if there was ever a character modeled on the serpent of the garden, it's Ben. -
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Sat, March 1, 2008 - 11:12 PMYeah...I don't know why people keep posting about Christian Shepard and Claire. This show is weird enough without bringing that into it. I think we already covered the incest thing with Shannon and Boone, but at least they were step-brother and step-sister. -
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Sun, March 2, 2008 - 7:03 AMIt seems like people must have missed some episodes or something because I don't get where the Claire could be Christian Shepard's lover thing is coming from either. In her flashback Christian Shepard made it clear that he was her father. -
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Sun, March 2, 2008 - 10:30 AMI MUST be mistaken then of course I have no clue. How could I be so dumb?
THEN
Daughter and Father Ghost feel safe together enough to cross that threshhold hand in hand.
I dunno - I am just dabbling here keeping hope alive
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Mon, March 3, 2008 - 5:40 PM<<I like Des and Pen >>
IF we're dealing with an over-arching time-loop (and that's one mighty big "IF" that I personally don't favor, but if we are...). then yeah, I could easily see Des & Pen becoming Adam & Eve before all's said and done.
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Mon, March 3, 2008 - 9:23 AMThey were probably just two dharma people who were snogging in the cave when the gas went off. -
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Mon, March 3, 2008 - 2:23 PMOh yeah, I remember some wondering if the female was the girl who had befriended young Ben, but grown up and "betrayed" him by being with someone else. Off having an illicit smooch, dead in the cave. But they were laid out, weren't they? They looked deliberately placed, not like they just crumpled where they fell. -
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Thu, May 8, 2008 - 2:21 PMAm I even more confused than usual or were there not also parts of an earlier crashed airplane --not the Oceanic 815, but some earlier big plane-- associated with Adam and Eve at rest in the cavern? I remember thinking "That looks like part of the tail section of an old Constellation" upon seeing some wreckage or other associated with the caves a couple/few seasons ago. If I've remembered that part correctly, then do we know the type of that older make of airplane? The type of airplane would give a "not earlier than the year 19__" date for Adam and Eve's return to the island, pre-DHARMA Initiative ...given that Adam & Eve are indeed actually Jake & Kate, Bernard & Rose, Ben & Annie, or Des & Pen.
Jack & Kate is the easy (in the sense of more predictably formulaic) guess, especially if I am right about a Jen & Kira "Dark Crystal" influence in LOST, but I think at this point I'd actually aesthetically prefer Jack and Kate to each come to dramatic and noble ends --perhaps trying to save Aaron-Jacob from Abaddon-- while Des and Pen survive all the various trials to board a Constellation back in the 1940's or 1950's ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lock...stellation ), crash on the island, and then blissfully live out their golden years together peacefully in love amidst the Eden of a stress-free tropical garden paradise, already confidently knowing the ending of their own personal stories. Love, commitment, and virtue such as Des & Pen's for one another must somehow be rewarded if there is any justice in the universe.
I'd say likewise for Bernard & Rose, but they have already had a good long run, know their love for one another beyond all question, and have come to a mature place of accepting their passage together, hand in hand, from this dimension as they make space for new folks to enter here. Des & Pen, by contrast, are still relatively young and have never had the opportunity to fully embrace and explore their love through really living life together and completely sharing experiences over time with one another.
Adam & Eve turning out to be Ben & Annie would be a real long shot, as would any pairings such as Hurley & Libby or Sayid & (?) and so on, IMHO.
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Thu, May 8, 2008 - 4:01 PM> Am I even more confused than usual or were there not also parts of an earlier crashed airplane
When Jack originally found the caves he was on the hunt for his father's body and he found parts of O815 scattered around the caves. I do not recall any other plane parts around the caves. -
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Thu, May 8, 2008 - 5:39 PMAs always the cake speaks sooth. (BTW, I think I consumed a small relative of yours today, bundt! :-P )
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Tue, May 13, 2008 - 2:50 AMRose and Bernard haven't had a good long run. They married rather recently, given their flashback.
Is it possible that this could not be a huge reveal? That maybe it is merely the clue they planted early so that it was was clear they planned it all from the start. That it will be something dropped in, like two Mittleos scientists conducting time travel experiment got trapped in the past and lived out their lives on the island between habitations. -
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Tue, May 13, 2008 - 4:54 AMand one was John in a previous life!
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