I'm not one for spoilers, but I do always enjoy knowing whose stories are coming up~
I think Xanadu posted a list of centricities for the first 8 episodes that turned out to be 100% correct, but I haven't seen Xanadu around here lately.
Any word on whose stories we're gonna hear in the next 5 eps?
Maybe Sonya knows...
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I think Xanadu posted a list of centricities for the first 8 episodes that turned out to be 100% correct, but I haven't seen Xanadu around here lately.
Any word on whose stories we're gonna hear in the next 5 eps?
Maybe Sonya knows...
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Re: Any news on upcoming Season 4 centricities?
Tue, April 8, 2008 - 6:28 PMSorta...
There are currently a lot of mixed reports, though.
Here's what's currently known by or reported to by the fine folks at Lostpedia via myriad sources:
4.9, The Shape of Things to Come, Ben and/or Sayid-centric flash-forward. It looks like both characters will be appearing pretty heavily, so hard to say who's truly centric
4.10, Something Nice Back Home, conflicting reports of Jack- and Kate-centric flash-forward...and of an appearance by Christian Shephard(!!!)
4.11, title Unknown, Locke-centric flashback featuring his childhood and an enigmatic appearance by Richard Alpert (yay!)
4.12, title unknown, centricity unknown
4.13, title unknown, centricity unknown...also unknown if Finale=12+13 or if 13 is 2 hours split up over 2 weeks.
I don't have any better info than that right now, tho.
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Tue, April 8, 2008 - 7:56 PM>>4.11, title Unknown, Locke-centric flashback featuring his childhood and an enigmatic appearance by Richard Alpert (yay!)<<
Oooh! That's like "I just wet my pants" yay!
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Re: Any news on upcoming Season 4 centricities?
Wed, April 9, 2008 - 4:31 PM<<Oooh! That's like "I just wet my pants" yay!>>
Yeah...that one has me drooling in anticipation, too. As does 4.9 regardless of whether it's a Ben or Sayid flash-forward. :-)
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Re: Any news on upcoming Season 4 centricities?
Thu, April 10, 2008 - 5:53 PMUpdated episode titles...
4.11: Cabin Fever
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Thu, April 10, 2008 - 10:02 PMOoooh! "Cabin Fever" sounds good! Sounds like Jacob :)
And "No Place Like Home" sounds like getting off the Island. It would make sense if that was done in 2 parts (finale) and we got to see them being "rescued" as the season closer~ -
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Fri, April 11, 2008 - 12:08 PMDoes certainly have that sound about it...but that may also be malleable depending on whether or not we get that last hour of Lost this season. (In which case, I strongly suspect that 4.13 would be a 2-hour called "There's No Place Like Home" and 4.12 gets another title entirely...)
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Re: Any news on upcoming Season 4 centricities?
Fri, April 11, 2008 - 12:26 PMCentricity update!
4.9, The Shape of Things to Come, Ben-centric flash-forward (w/ Sayid guesting!)
4.10, Something Nice Back Home, Jack-centric flash-forward...appearance by Christian Shephard(!!!)
4.11, Cabin Fever, Locke-centric flashback featuring his childhood and an enigmatic appearance by Richard Alpert (yay!)
4.12, There's No Place Like Home, centricity unknown
4.13, title unknown, centricity unknown.
Possible 4.13a or 4.14, title unknown, centricity unknown
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Re: Any news on upcoming Season 4 centricities?
Mon, April 14, 2008 - 12:35 PMLatest and greatest, per Lostpedia:
4/24 - 4.09, The Shape of Things to Come, Ben-centric flash-forward (w/ Sayid guesting!)
5/01 - 4.10, Something Nice Back Home, Jack-centric flash-forward...appearance by Christian Shephard(!!!)
5/08 - 4.11, Cabin Fever, Locke-centric flashback featuring his childhood and an enigmatic appearance by Richard Alpert (yay!)
5/15 - 4.12, There's No Place Like Home, Claire flash-forward
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Re: Any news on upcoming Season 4 centricities?
Tue, April 15, 2008 - 11:26 AM>>5/01 - 4.10, Something Nice Back Home, Jack-centric flash-forward...appearance by Christian Shephard(!!!)
as I have been insisting for more than a year.... CHRISTIAN SHEPHARD NEVER ACTUALLY DIED!!!!! He's TOTALLY still alive.
I have dozens of components to support this theory, but here's the most important: recall in Jack's flash-forward at the end of season 3 (at the time, we did not realize it was a flash-forward), the hotshot new boss doctor is confronting Jack on his alcoholism, behavior, and overattachment to the mom car-crash-victim. And Jack says to him, "You go get my father! You go get him right now, and we'll see if he's drunker than me!"
okay, I'm paraphrasing. But still, if someone is dead, would you go around saying "You go get him right now, he's drunker than me"? -
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Tue, April 15, 2008 - 1:13 PMYou might if you were blitzed on booze and pills.
So whose body was identified as Christian by Jack?
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Tue, April 15, 2008 - 2:41 PMChristian Shepard's evil twin, Also named Christian Shepard lol
Maybe Later on we'll find out that Locke is Jack's evil twin too :P
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Tue, April 15, 2008 - 5:59 PMThat was Christian. He took the spider venom that makes you appear dead for 24 hours.
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Tue, April 15, 2008 - 6:03 PM
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Tue, April 15, 2008 - 3:59 PM<<as I have been insisting for more than a year.... CHRISTIAN SHEPHARD NEVER ACTUALLY DIED!!!!! He's TOTALLY still alive.>>
So sorry...thank you for calling!
This has been debunked by Damon and Carlton themselves:
lostpedia.com/wiki/Christ...Reappearance
Jack's reference to him in the flash-forward portion of "Through the Looking Glass" was intentionally misleading on the writers' part and, ultimately was just the crass maundering of a suicidal hop-head.
Consequently there are only 3 explanations for seeing Christian Shephard at any point after his death in Sydney:
1) In flashback
2) As a corpse
3) As an Island manifestation
It is #3 which explains Jack's on-Island sightings of him, and his appearances in Jacob's cabin and to Vincent in the mobisode, "So It Begins".
That said, I suspect we might see at least one example of #2...Jack did have Christian's corpse with him on Oceanic 815. It was why he was in Sydney to begin with. It could very easily be that one of the first things the O6 does upon returning to civilization is to bury Christian Shephard's body. -
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Tue, April 15, 2008 - 5:58 PMDebunked with evasive caveats does not equal debunked!!! Particularly with these writers.
I wish I could hear that 4/20/07 podcast, but it's no longer up on ABC. I'm unconvinced. The people at LOSTpedia do fine work, but they are even acknowledging that this is "qualified" statement, and they can't yet explain the inconsistencies. Are we 100% sure that LOSTpedia has NEVER been head-faked by Cuse/Lindelof trickery? Surely there is some degree of head-fake going on here.
The authors of that LOSTpedia entry seem confident that Christian's "dead but still shows up on the island" status is analogous to Yemi's. I wonder about this -- I think it's more analogous to Nikki & Paolo, who were also "dead In terms of actually physically corporally in existence" -- (e.g., no pulse and turning green) until the moment they opened their eyes and realized they were being buried alive. That whole "spider venom" thing that Arzt described is central to my theory. And I would say that's the #4 possibility on your list.
If you're skeptical about this theory, then I'm not even going to go into my "Christian Shephard is the architect of the plane crash scheme" theory. (I AM sending it to USA Today, though!) But I don't see anything here to dissuade me. The podcast might, admittedly, truly debunk this. They play coy sometimes, but I don't think they lie. I wish someone actually did transcripts of the podcasts as opposed to brief summaries. Christian in the whispers, and appearing in the cabin, admittedly, hurts my case here. I would assume only dead people can do that stuff. But we don't know for sure what regulates the ability to whisper or appear in cabins...
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Re: Any news on upcoming Season 4 centricities?
Wed, April 16, 2008 - 3:32 AMI think the "Meet Kevin Johnson" podcast ( ll.media.abc.com/podcast/a...604375.mp3 ) may clear this up a bit for you.
They play 'word association' between a name, and whether or not that person is alive, dead, apparition, animal, etc. For Yemi, Damon says "Monster". Later on, when talking about Kate's horse, they mention that the writers have a headshot gallery to keep track of the characters with three categories: Alive, Dead, and "Undead". The only ones under Undead are Christian Shepherd, Yemi and Kate's Horse.
Ok, I take it back, that may not clear up anything :)
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Re: Any news on upcoming Season 4 centricities?
Wed, April 16, 2008 - 9:42 AMSo Ben's mother isn't in the undead category? What about Sayid's cat? And how about Libby? -
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Wed, April 16, 2008 - 12:58 PMHere was the full list of questions and answers in the "WTF *was* that?" portion of the podcast in question (courtesy, as so often, of the fine people at Lostpedia):
* Ben's mother Emily = Apparition
* Sawyer's wild boar = Animal
* Medusa Spider = Monster
* Hurley bird = No comment
* Dave = Apparition/figment of imagination
* Yemi = Monster
* Mikhail's cat Nadia = animal and coincidence
* Walt = Walt the person is human, but there are apparitions of Walt that may be monster related
* Boone in Locke's dream = dream
* Jack = They say he's an apparition and are kidding about it.
* Kate's horse = Undead
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Re: Any news on upcoming Season 4 centricities?
Wed, April 16, 2008 - 1:22 PMMedusa Spider = Monster? Interesting.
Ben's dead mother appearing and talking to him was an apparition but not the same as when other people's dead relatives appeared to them? The line between apparition and monster seems fuzzy. Which one is Libby when she appears to Michael? I am assuming apparition since he wasn't actually on the island and that was more of a guilt thing.
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Christian Shephard is DEAD DEAD DEAD...and an Island Apparition. :-P
Wed, April 16, 2008 - 1:20 PM@Joey
<<I wish I could hear that 4/20/07 podcast, but it's no longer up on ABC.>>
Lostpedia's gotcha covered...
Audio file: ll.media.abc.com/podcast/a...070420.mp3
Transcript: lostpedia.com/wiki/Offici...l_20%2C_2007
<<And I would say that's the #4 possibility on your list.>>
There is no #4 item on my list. And when this is sorted once and for all, I will graciously watch you eat your hat. :-)
We know all the really was to know about *live* Christian Shephard from the flashbacks of Jack and others. To wit, he really was just a talented, workaholic, alcoholic, philandering surgeon who saddled his son, Jack, with a lot of "daddy issues" and spawned an illegitimate half-sister to Jack in Claire. Anytime he's spotted walking around (or rocking in chairs) on the Island, he's an apparition, just like Yemi.
I'm really not seeing what's so hard to understand about all this. We have all the evidence right in front of us. -
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Re: Christian Shephard is DEAD DEAD DEAD...and an Island Apparition. :-P
Wed, April 16, 2008 - 2:26 PMOooo...looks like there's another nail in the coffin (so to speak) of the "Christian is alive" theory:
(Do not click if you're spoiler-averse!)
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Re: Christian Shephard is DEAD DEAD DEAD...and an Island Apparition. :-P
Wed, April 16, 2008 - 2:30 PMHmmm, can't talk about it in this thread but there are some things about that link that just don't make sense to me. -
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Re: Christian Shephard is DEAD DEAD DEAD...and an Island Apparition. :-P
Thu, April 17, 2008 - 1:28 PMSo talk about it on the Spoiler Chat thread. Makes sense to me, though. ;-)
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Re: Any news on upcoming Season 4 centricities?
Tue, April 15, 2008 - 9:20 PM<<It could very easily be that one of the first things the O6 does upon returning to civilization is to bury Christian Shephard's body.>>
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Tue, April 15, 2008 - 9:31 PMAfter a couple of months of rotting in the jungle I think it is a good thing that he hasn't shown up! -
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Tue, April 15, 2008 - 11:40 PMI bet you the 'cabin fever' episode involves Jacob!
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Tue, April 15, 2008 - 6:10 PMDo we know in which one we will see Libby? Not that I need to stock up on Jurgen's or anything.... -
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Re: Any news on upcoming Season 4 centricities?
Wed, April 16, 2008 - 12:49 PMDunno, but I'm hoping for "as many as possible"! I've been jonesing for the rest of her story since she showed up, and was deeply annoyed when they killed her off before giving us the deets on that grrl!
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Re: Any news on upcoming Season 4 centricities?
Thu, April 17, 2008 - 2:10 PMOne more update:
4/24 - 4.09, The Shape of Things to Come, Ben-centric flash-forward (w/ Sayid guesting!)
5/01 - 4.10, Something Nice Back Home, Jack-centric flash-forward...appearance by Christian Shephard(!!!)
5/08 - 4.11, Cabin Fever, Locke-centric flashback featuring his childhood and an enigmatic appearance by Richard Alpert (yay!)
5/15 - 4.12, There's No Place Like Home, Part 1, Claire flash-forward
5/29 - 4.13/14, There's No Place Like Home, Part 2, Oceanic 6 flash-forward
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Re: Any news on upcoming Season 4 centricities?
Mon, May 19, 2008 - 3:59 PM> 5/15 - 4.12, There's No Place Like Home, Part 1, Claire flash-forward
Didn't turn out to be a Claire flash-forward. In fact, I don't think Claire was in it at all. -
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Re: Any news on upcoming Season 4 centricities?
Tue, May 20, 2008 - 6:35 AMDid my mind just go blank? I don't remember any specific central character...I mean Hurley maybe, but it seemed to be a general flash forward of the O6. Right? -
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Re: Any news on upcoming Season 4 centricities?
Tue, May 20, 2008 - 12:20 PMNo you're right. I think it would be a tie between Hurley and Jack being the focal points in 5/15 show.
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Tue, May 20, 2008 - 12:23 PMNo, there wasn't a central character.
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Tue, May 20, 2008 - 7:45 PM<< Did my mind just go blank? I don't remember any specific central character...I mean Hurley maybe, but it seemed to be a general flash forward of the O6. Right?>>
It *was* an "all of the O6" flash-forward. When this was posted they weren't even done filming yet, and everything was just going by rumor and on-set spying.
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Re: Any news on upcoming Season 4 centricities?
Tue, May 20, 2008 - 4:20 PMwow, You're the last person I'd expect to start this tread and not mark it spoiler.
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Re: Any news on upcoming Season 4 centricities?
Tue, May 20, 2008 - 5:25 PMIt's an old thread, someone revived it, the word spoiler is in the first message of the thread, and besides all that, I don't think anyone really considers centricities to be spoilers. The info in this thread is pretty much the kind of stuff you'd find out in a TV Guide or ABC pre-episode airing blurb.
Of course, if you're not reading anything else in this thread, then you'll probably not see my reply, so really, I could have just written:
"I just pooped in my pants."
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