Mu

topic posted Thu, April 9, 2009 - 5:12 PM by  Powers
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Mu is the name of a hypothetical continent that allegedly existed in one of Earth's oceans, but disappeared at the dawn of human history.

The concept and the name were proposed by 19th century traveler and writer Augustus Le Plongeon, who claimed that several ancient civilizations, such as those of Egypt and Mesoamerica, were created by refugees from Mu — which he located in the Atlantic Ocean.[1] This concept was popularized and expanded by James Churchward (1851–1936), who asserted that Mu was once located in the Pacific.[2]

The existence of Mu was disputed already in Le Plongeon's time. Today, scientists dismiss the concept of Mu (and of other lost continents like Lemuria) as physically impossible, since a continent can neither sink nor be destroyed by any conceivable catastrophe, especially not in the short period of time required by this premise.[3][4] Moreover, the weight of all archaeological, linguistic and genetic evidence is contrary to the claim that the ancient civilizations of the New and Old Worlds have a common origin. So, the very "facts" that the theory was conceived to explain are now seen to be false. Mu is today considered to be a fictional place.[5] [6]

History of the concept

[edit] Augustus Le Plongeon
The idea of Mu first appeared in the works of Augustus Le Plongeon (1825–1908), after his investigations of the Maya ruins in Yucatán.[1] He claimed that he had translated the ancient Mayan writings, which supposedly showed that the Maya of Yucatán were older than the later civilizations of Greece and Egypt, and additionally told the story of an even older continent.

Le Plongeon actually got the name "Mu" from Charles Étienne Brasseur de Bourbourg who in 1864 mistranslated what was then called the Troano Codex using the de Landa alphabet. Brasseur believed that a word that he read as Mu referred to a land submerged by a catastrophe[citation needed]. Le Plongeon then identified this lost land with Atlantis, and turned it into a continent which had supposedly sunk into the Atlantic Ocean:

"In our journey westward across the Atlantic we shall pass in sight of that spot where once existed the pride and life of the ocean, the Land of Mu, which, at the epoch that we have been considering, had not yet been visited by the wrath of Homen, that lord of volcanic fires to whose fury it afterward fell a victim. The description of that land given to Solon by Sonchis, priest at Sais; its destruction by earthquakes, and submergence, recorded by Plato in his Timaeus, have been told and retold so many times that it is useless to encumber these pages with a repetition of it". [1]: ch. VI, p. 66
Le Plongeon claimed that the civilization of ancient Egypt was founded by Queen Moo, a refugee from the land's demise. Other refugees supposedly fled to Central America and became the Mayans.[4]


[edit] James Churchward
Le Plongeon's lost continent was later popularised by James Churchward (1851–1936) in a series of books, beginning with Lost Continent of Mu, the Motherland of Man (1926) [2], re-edited later as The Lost Continent Mu (1931) [7]. Other popular books in the series are The Children of Mu (1931), and The Sacred Symbols of Mu (1933).

Churchward claimed that "more than fifty years ago," while he was a soldier in India, he befriended a high-ranking temple priest who showed him a set of ancient "sunburnt" clay tablets, supposedly in a long lost "Naga-Maya language" which only two other people in India could read. Having mastered the language himself, Churchward found out that they originated from "the place where [man] first appeared—Mu." The 1931 edition states that “all matter of science in this work are based on translations of two sets of ancient tablets:” the clay tables he read in India, and a collection 2,500 stone tablets that had been uncovered by William Niven in Mexico.[7]: p. 7

Churchward gave a vivid description of Mu as the home of an advanced civilization, the Naacal, which flourished between 50,000 and 12,000 years ago, was dominated by a “white race,"[7]: p. 48 and was "superior in many respects to our own" [7]: p. 17 At the time of its demise, about 12,000 years ago, Mu had 64,000,000 inhabitants and many large cities, and colonies in the other continents.

Churchward claimed that the landmass of Mu was located in the Pacific Ocean, and stretched east-west from the Marianas to Easter Island, and north-south from Hawaii to Mangaia. He claimed that according to the creation myth he read in the Indian tablets, Mu had been lifted above sea level by the expansion of underground volcanic gases. Eventually Mu “was completely obliterated in almost a single night”[7]: p. 44: after a series of earthquakes and volcanic eruptions, "the broken land fell into that great abyss of fire" and was covered by "fifty millions of square miles of water."[7]: p. 50

Churchward claimed that Mu was the common origin of the great civilizations of Egypt, Greece, Central America, India, Burma and others, including Easter Island, and was in particular the source of ancient megalithic architecture. As evidence for his claims, he pointed to symbols from throughout the world, in which he saw common themes of birds, the relation of the Earth and the sky, and especially the Sun. Churchward claims the king of Mu was Ra and he relates this to the Egyptian god of the sun, Ra, and the Rapanui word for Sun, ra’a, which he incorrectly spells "raa."[7]: p. 48 He claimed to have found symbols of the Sun in “Egypt, Babylonia, Peru and all ancient lands and countries – it was a universal symbol.”[7]: p. 138

Churchward attributed all megalithic art in Polynesia to the people of Mu. He claimed that symbols of the sun are found “depicted on stones of Polynesian ruins,” such as the stone hats (pukao) on top of the giant moai statues of Easter Island. Citing W.J. Johnson, Churchward incorrectly describes the cylindrical hats as “spheres” that “show red in the distance”, and asserts that they “represent the Sun as Ra.”[7]: p. 138 He also incorrectly claimed that some of them are made of "red sandstone" [7]: p. 89 which does not occur in the island. The platforms on which the statues rest (ahu) are described by Churchward as being “platform-like accumulations of cut and dressed stone,” which were supposedly left in their current positions “awaiting shipment to some other part of the continent for the building of temples and palaces.”[7]: p. 89 He also cites the pillars “erected by the Maoris of New Zealand” as an example of this lost civilization’s handiwork.[7]: p. 158 In Churchward's view, the present-day Polynesians are not descendants of the dominant members of the lost civilization of Mu, responsible for these great works, but survivors of the cataclysm that adopted “the first cannibalism and savagery” in the world.[7]: p. 54


Underwater structures claimed to be remnants of Mu, near Yonaguni, Japan
[edit] Modern claims
Churchward's concept of Mu was elaborated upon by other writers. Graham Hancock claimed that the destruction of Mu occurred around 10,000 B.C.[citation needed], whereas James Bramwell and William Scott-Elliott claimed that the cataclysmic events began 800,000 years ago[8]: p. 194 and went on until the last catastrophe, which occurred precisely in 9564 BC.[8]: p. 195

Michel Desmarquet's 1993 book Thiaoouba Prophecy contains a detailed description of the continent Mu, allegedly experienced by the author while under the instruction of extraterrestrials.

Masaaki Kimura has suggested that certain underwater features located off the coast of Yonaguni Island, Japan (popularly known as the Yonaguni Monument) are ruins of Mu [9] [10] (or "ruins of the lost world of Muin" according to CNN [11]).


[edit] Criticisms

[edit] Geological arguments
Modern geological knowledge rules out "lost continents" of any significant size. According to the theory of plate tectonics, which has been extensively confirmed over the past 40 years, the Earth's crust consists of lighter "sial" rocks (rich in aluminum silicates) that float on heavier "sima" rocks (richer in magnesium silicates). The sial is generally absent or a few kilometres thick at the bottom of the oceans, while the continents are huge solid blocks tens of kilometers thick. Since continents float on the sima much like icebergs float on water, a continent cannot simply "sink" under the ocean.

It is true that continental drift and seafloor spreading can change the shape and position of continents, and occasionally break a continent into two or more pieces (as happened to Pangaea). However, these are very slow processes that occur in geological time scales (hundreds of millions of years). Over the scale of history (tens of thousands of years), the sima under the continental crust can be considered solid, and the continents are basically anchored on it. It is all but certain that the continents and ocean floors have retained their present position and shape for the whole span of human existence.

There is also no conceivable event that could have "destroyed" a continent, since its huge mass of sial rocks would have to end up somewhere—and there is no trace of it at the bottom of the oceans. The Pacific Ocean islands are not part of a submerged landmass, but rather the tips of isolated volcanoes.


Map of Easter Island showing locations of the ahu and moaiThis is the case, in particular, of Easter Island, which is a recent volcanic peak surrounded by deep ocean (3,000 m deep at 30 km off the island). After visiting the island in the 1930s, Alfred Metraux observed that the moai platforms are concentrated along the current coast of the island, which implies that the island's shape has changed little since they were built. Moreover, the "Triumphal Road" that Pierre Loti had reported ran from the island to the submerged lands below, is actually a natural lava flow [12]. Furthermore, while Churchward was correct in his claim that the island has no sandstone or sedimentary rocks, the point is moot because the pukao are all made of native volcanic scoria.


[edit] As a local catastrophe
The geological arguments that rule out "lost continents" do not rule out local catastrophes which may have changed the course of human history, such as the 80 m rise in the sea level over the last 12,000 years, the flooding of the Black Sea 7,600 years ago, and the eruption of Santorini 3,600 years ago. However, if Mu was anything less than a full-size continent, it could not fulfill its claimed role in the spread of civilization across the oceans.


[edit] Archaeological and genetic evidence
The historical details and implications of the Mu theory, which from the start were even more controversial than the physical ones, have been throughly discredited by archaeological and genetic research.

The weight of evidence is that the civilizations of the Americas and the Old World developed independently of each other; and, in fact, agriculture and urban societies probably first developed, after the end of the Ice Age, somewhere in the Levant some 10,000 ago and gradually spread outwards from there to the rest of the Old World. The development of the oldest known cities, such as Çatalhöyük, can be more easily be attributed to local and gradual evolution than to the coming of refugees from a "superior civilization." Finally, genetic studies of the indigenous peoples of America, the Pacific Islanders, and the ancient peoples of the Old World are quite incompatible with the Mu theory.

As for Easter Island, there is no evidence of human presence in the land before 300 AD; and the Pukao on the Moai are typically regarded as ceremonial headdress.

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  • Re: Mu

    Fri, April 10, 2009 - 8:45 AM
    Um . . . nobody is digging the greek/egyptain connnection with Mu in the middle bridging that debate

    I guess its Just a Jean Powers thing
    • Re: Mu

      Fri, April 10, 2009 - 11:07 AM

      >a continent can neither sink nor be destroyed by any conceivable catastrophe, especially not in the short period of time required by this premise<

      Probably true for a continent, but if the legend traces back to an island rather than a continent per se, then there are all sorts of things which could have happened (huge earthquake/tsunami, volcanic eruption ala Krakatoa or Pompeii's Vesuvius, fireball strike, or just plain old sinking into a rising ocean as does sometimes happen). It surprises me there is no discussion in the text above about the possibility (if not probability) of Crete en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crete being the actual place and the Minoans en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mino...vilization the people which have rise to myths of Mu and Atlantis. A volcanic eruption was the doom of the Minoans, who practiced human sacrifice in their temples, but being a seafaring they interacted with both the ancient Egyptians and ancient Greeks so influenced each other and intermixed to some degree. Intriguingly, if oral traditions among Neanderthal and human populations are continuous back far enough, then there actually was a deluge (in fact, several) which made much of the modern Mediterranean and Black seas, as Wiki notes:

      Plato in his Laws, Book III, estimates that this flood occurred 10,000 years before his time. Also in Timaeus and in Critias he describes the "great deluge of all" happening 9,000 years before the time of Solon, during the 10th millennium BC. In addition, the texts report that "many great deluges have taken place during the nine thousand years" since Athens and Atlantis were preeminent. The theory of the flood in the Aegean Basin, proposed that a great flood occurred at the end of the Late Pleistocene or beginning of the Holocene. The Holocene is a geological period that began approximately 11,550 calendar years BP (or about 9600 BC) and continues to the present. This flood would coincide with the end of the last ice age, estimated approximately 10,000 years ago, when the sea level rose as much as 130 metres, particularly during Meltwater pulse 1A when sea level rose by about 25 metres in some parts of the northern hemisphere over a period of less than 500 years. The map on the right shows how the region would look about 12,000 years ago, or 10,000 BC, when the sea level would have been 125 meters lower than today. The Peloponnese was connected to the mainland and the Corinthian Gulf was not formed. Islands around Attica, such as Aegina, Salamis and Euboea, were part of the mainland. The Cyclades formed a big island known as Aegeis, while Bosporus and Hellespont was not formed yet. These geological findings support the hypothesis that the Ogygian Deluge may well be based on a real event.
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deluge_(mythology)

      So, there is substance to the possibility of an ancient Minoan-Egyptian-Greek connection via Atlantis/Mu in LOST, if the scenario unfolds that LOST's time-travelers influenced the course of entire subsequent civilizations and their mythos by nudging the ancient Minoans-Egyptians-Greeks, but all we have to go on so far is a rain of flaming arrows (which could have come from slaves who escaped off the Black Rock), hieroglyphics, and the impressive back & weathered oddly-toed foot of the Statue. Even for m'self (being generally bunnyrabbitlike in my feckless leaping, as judged by the more conservative standards of some Others) it would be quite a leap to bound from the LOST evidence presented to date all the way to the definite conclusion of a LOST island of Atlantis or LOST sunken continent of Mu. There is substance to the possibility, though, imho.
      • MU MU BuckerRoos!

        Tue, May 19, 2009 - 11:04 AM
        Light Vs. Dark, Good Vs. Evil, The Lost Continent of Mu, Babies, And Some Other Stuff by Pavin Browne

        The opening scene of this episode, The Incident, is probably one of the most crucial scenes of all LOST. It shows Jacob (Dressed in white robes) and his enemy or Nemesis (Dressed in dark robes).

        Jacob, wanting to prove to the Nemesis that people can transform, from bad to good, has brought a ship to the island (presumably the Black Rock). The Nemesis just says that it always ends the same, that the people Jacob brings to the island just corrupt the island and do bad things. Jacob thinks that people have the ability to redeem themselves of there past lives on the island and become better people. This is why Jacob brings the Losties to the island, to redeem themselves. All of the Losties have done something they wish they didn’t. Sawyer killed a man, Kate also killed a man, Sun cheated on Jin and slept with another man, Jin was a killer for Mr. Paik, Charlie was a drug addict, Eko killed people and pretended to b! e a priest, Sayid was a torturer, and Locke, well he had terrible dad issues, much like Jack. Jacob brought all of these people to the island to rid them of there past sins and make them whole again, to prove to his Nemesis that it was possible for humans to change.

        This proves that the true winner of the overall “game” would be the goodness of human nature and not the badness. This game, one side light and one side dark (Locke in the Pilot Episode), is the outcome of the entire island, possibly the world. This game has gone on and on for years and years, with each side continuing to bring new players onto the board. These players are the Losties (brought in by Jacob) as well as others such as the mercenaries (brought in by the Nemesis) who almost wiped out the Losties.

        The Nemesis is also trying to prevent Jacob of bringing new players to the game by attempting to kill them before Jacob can bring them to the island (Locke out of the building, Michael being hit by a car! , etc.) This Nemesis is quite possibly the smoke monster, able! to comm unicate with the Losties through visions, some of which ultimately kill them (Shannon seeing Walt before being shot, Hurley seeing Dave and almost committing suicide, etc.). Jacob believes that this cycle, or loop, of continuing to bring people to the island will continue to correct itself overtime until the outcome is revealed. He knows there is only one end and anything that leads up to that end is just progress. “It only ends one. Anything that happens before that? It’s just progress.” –Jacob. Now, how does Jacob bring these people to the island? Touch. In every situation where Jacob has met with the Losties, he has, in one-way or another, touched them physically (Kate on the nose, Sawyer on the hand whilst giving him the pen, Locke on the shoulder, Jack on the hand while giving him the Apollo bar, Jin and Sun at their wedding, etc.). This is quite possibly the reason that they are drawn to the island in some strange way.

        On a completely different note, lets talk about ancient Egypt and the Island. As we all know, there is a strong Egyptian influence on the show (e.g. The Statue, Hieroglyphs in the hatch and in the Temple, etc.). The amount of Egyptian mythology is vast in this show. I think that Island is part of a lost continent, Mu. Now, Mu was a continent that was supposedly in one of the oceans but disappeared before it could be recorded, much like other “lost continents” and cities such as Lemuria and Atlantis. Augustus Le Plongeon proposed this idea of Mu in the 19th century. He claimed that refugees of Mu created ancient civilizations, such as Egypt and Mesoamerica. My theory is that the people of Mu originally started the Egyptian style architecture on the island (The statue, the Temple, etc.) but left once the continent sank. However, some parts of Mu were still in tact and above water, such as Easter Island and the Island. So, is the Island part of the ancient continent of Mu? ! Another part of this Egyptian topic is the Statue. The statue is of the Egyptian god named Taweret. She is the god of fertility and birth and she was the wife of Apep, the god of evil. Apep lives beneath the horizon (representing evil) and Taweret resides above the horizon (representing good). So, this brings us back to the good vs. evil, black vs. white, Jacob vs. The Nemesis.

        Another theory that I have with the statue has to do with Jughead. I believe when Juliet detonates the bomb it destroys the statue, leaving only the foot. Before the Incident, the statue was whole, not destroyed. This is why Juliet was able to deliver Amy’s baby but in the future, Juliet is not able to deliver the baby. Once Taweret (the god of fertility) is destroyed, the gods (somehow) prevent babies from being born.

        This is my theory on the season finale of Season 5.

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